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    The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

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    How should the RRI be built?

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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  XScopeX on Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:36 am

    Awesome, thanks Queepo.

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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Autaall on Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:37 am

    I want to make a complex station at my cavern that will have multiple destinations possible, however I don't know how many destinations there will be. I've designed two track switchers, one that is smaller and more elegant but has a max of four destinations and a multi-floor monstrosity that can have more than four.

    How many destinations do you think there will be, lots in all directions or only a few to major places. I need to know as soon as possible so I can start building! I'm also happy with mining and construction of the connections between stations if you need help with that.
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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Tariss on Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:41 am

    (Note: I am at school right now, so my mind's a little scattered XD)

    @Nbord: Now this is the kind of feedback I need :D

    As embarrassing as it is to admit, I hadn't even thought about whether or not it would be underground. A bedrock-level railway would certainly save space aboveground, and needed materials could be found even while we dig the tunnels. On the downside, the view would be incredibly boring.

    If it was to be underground, I imagine we would use the 'elevator' function to raise and lower the carts without having to use incredibly long ramps etc.

    As for the stations, I'm hopeless when it comes to designing aesthetically-pleasing buildings, so I was rather hoping other people could design them... and the placement/direction of the tracks will change dramatically depending on where the station is. I would suggest just building a general station and you can make edits as we get some more information together. It can be any size really, since it's only a prototype.

    @Scope: Awesome :) On an unrelated note, I was exploring your city the other day and I loved the church!

    @Quee: Thank you so much :D By any chance, would you also be able to provide me with a current cartograph so I can begin marking all of the stops?

    @Autall: I believe that the main station will only branch out in a few directions. Upon reaching more densely populated areas, the stations there will branch off several more times, creating a kind of 'tree' effect. Unfortunately, at this moment, I don't have a definite on how many stops there will be.
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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  FatalxMistake on Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:10 pm

    What i think would be cool, is if each person who has a reasonable large/decent house built their own ministation under/near their house. Then have that station be a branch off to other stations nearby. Just a thought :p
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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Tariss on Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:36 pm

    It would certainly be easier if most private stations were built by the land's owner, yes.

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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Autaall on Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:39 pm

    I'm not sure if this should go here, but to make lever/button operated switches work for players a setting needs to be changed on the server. According to this you need to set "Intersection prompts" to 1 so it doesn't ask you at every intersection. Intersection prompts will still be available but only if there is a brick block, so it should be ok.
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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Tariss on Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:41 pm

    It'll be fine, it'll be fine :)

    Okay guys, I'm going to ask that everyone who wants a station/stop near or on their property please speak up now. I'll begin compiling a list so we have some idea what exactly we're up against.

    In other news, I've been practicing (although failing...) the Minecartmania stuff, and it's amazing what it's capable of. This is going to be so cool when it gets going XD

    If anyone wants an epic example of a railway, check out Burly's set-up in the spawn.
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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  FatalxMistake on Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:17 pm

    ill take a station near my house. for me there will probably be 2-3 directions.


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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Autaall on Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:43 pm

    I'm making a large one with four entrance/exit terminals and 4 destinations, set up so it's easy to pass through.

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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Nbord on Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:46 pm

    I'm interested in having a station near my place, but I'm not sure if I'd want to to branch off to everyone else's....maybe just spawn or the main track?

    I'm picturing something like this:

    Main hub, near spawn. Tracks shot off in 4 directions, N S E and W. The N S E W branches of the track will split into smaller stations down the line, and those will split into more tracks, more destinations, and more stations. The final branches of the track can be the private ones people must construct on their own.

    Like Tariss said, I love the tree branching idea, which is pretty much what I described above.

    EDIT: Oh, and minecarts and rails were added to the shop! Very Happy
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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  XScopeX on Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:40 am

    Ill make a station in my city
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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Tariss on Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:11 am

    Okay, added all of you guys to the list. :)

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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Nbord on Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:41 pm

    I propose a name change...to TRRI, The Rapture Railroad Initiative. That way, we can pronounce it "try" >_>

    Semi-jokes aside, with Aut's station, I'll see what I can do.

    Once again, we get to this question: Will the railroads be underground?
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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Tariss on Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:30 pm

    Well, it's looking more and more like the railroads WILL be underground. For a definite: yes, they will be.

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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Nbord on Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:53 pm

    Tariss wrote:Well, it's looking more and more like the railroads WILL be underground. For a definite: yes, they will be.

    At what level?

    I propose a level right above the top of bedrock, so that no bedrock is showing.
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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Tariss on Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:03 am

    Good idea Nbord! The only problem I have is that an underground railway would be incredibly boring view-wise...
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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  FatalxMistake on Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:06 am

    Tariss wrote:Good idea Nbord! The only problem I have is that an underground railway would be incredibly boring view-wise...
    agreed

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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Nbord on Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:38 am

    Tariss wrote:Good idea Nbord! The only problem I have is that an underground railway would be incredibly boring view-wise...

    Well, we should have a poll: Under or above ground?

    Underground saves space and may be easier to make, but is boring for the rider.

    Above ground takes up a lot of space, will be harder to make (hills, mountains, water, etc.) but looks amazing.

    Personally, I vote we go underground.

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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Autaall on Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:29 am

    Nbord wrote:
    Tariss wrote:Good idea Nbord! The only problem I have is that an underground railway would be incredibly boring view-wise...

    Well, we should have a poll: Under or above ground?

    Underground saves space and may be easier to make, but is boring for the rider.

    Above ground takes up a lot of space, will be harder to make (hills, mountains, water, etc.) but looks amazing.

    Personally, I vote we go underground.

    I vote both. Wherever it fits best. Both have equal pros and cons in my opinion, so I believe that we should use both. Correctly made above ground structures don't need to take up too much space.

    However, I don't like the idea of going down to near bedrock. I don't want to need teleporters or long spirals to get low enough, only to need to come up later. Just however deep suits the situation, which will most often be nearer to the surface.

    Also, It's actually easier to build on the surface because you don't have to dig long tunnels, which is a slow and incredibly boring task. I built a 1000 unit long tunnel on a personal server and that was rather annoying to say the least, and that was only one unit wide. At least on the surface all you need to do is a little terrain alteration/bridge building which is also a lot more interesting.

    It comes down to a balance between space, ease of build, ease of use and aesthetics
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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Tariss on Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:46 pm

    Okay, I'll add the poll. Autaall has a point about the spirals etc. and I'm not too keen on how boring the ride would be. On the other hand, I admire the efficiency and save-saving of the underground rail.

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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Nbord on Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:49 pm

    As for the issue of getting down to the bedrock tunnels and up to the ground, we can simply us the Elevator signs.

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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Autaall on Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:37 am

    Can there be a 'both' option. I want to use whatever's appropriate to the situation, not one or the other.
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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Bondsy on Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:37 am

    I've completed a closed-circuit station outside my abode.

    I'm not sure if it's up to par and it will probably need to be converted a little. But I'm proud.

    Just waiting for y'all to lay some track.
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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Captnfog on Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:20 am

    REVAMPED! Hurrah! There's an Express train to DepthCity from the end of the purple Spawn road straight to the welcome rock. With the help of Bondsy and Roberts IHR, we have collectively simplified a station design. No longer are there three buttons! Our improved station design utilizes only one simple button! Plus automatic cart ejection at the end of the ride, and cart catchers with brick blocks for people who are dumb and don't read signs... What else....O! A cart is pulled up as soon as one, w/ or w/o a player inside, leaves the station.

    If ya wanna see how it works, go to DepthCity, which is under the Eye of Sauron and hard to miss, or to the end of the Purple spawn road. I'd be glad to help anyone with station design/minecart mania.

    And I vote above ground, because I love vistas... and trains... and seeing where your going so you can explore and not be lost if the system breaks.
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    Re: The Rapture Railway Initiative [RRI]

    Post  Tariss on Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:27 pm

    Yeah, I'm sorry the RRI isn't really going anywhere right now, but you all know I can't get on to MC :(

    And awesome Captnfog! Glad that the initiative is still happening XD

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